MarkfromScotland 
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Thought that would get your attention...! Was thinking of what they could do next. How about a Cd of Classic Hymns done in the style of The Dogs...? Any suggestions for suitable Hymns...?
Take care, Mark.
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BigFiber
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You want a new album already? 
But since you asked...
It is well with my soul...
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MarkfromScotland
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[quote]Originally posted by BigFiber
You want a new album already?
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Yip, I am a consumer, I want to consume.
That is not a hymn, by the way.
I would love them to do when I survey the wonderous cross, probably my favourite hymn.
Take care, Mark.
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BigFiber
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Is it me, or do most "younger" churches not play enough (if any) hymns nowadays? I would say I'm a young man (34) and I miss the old standards. The church we attend is all about the praise, clap your hands, get happy music. I agree that happy praise music is important but throw me a bone from time to time...
Man, I feel old right now...
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pmac
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Originally posted by BigFiber
Is it me, or do most "younger" churches not play enough (if any) hymns nowadays? I would say I'm a young man (34) and I miss the old standards. The church we attend is all about the praise, clap your hands, get happy music. I agree that happy praise music is important but throw me a bone from time to time...
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Our church (conservative Baptist) went to two services about 10 yrs ago... a contemporary one with praise songs, and a traditional hymn type of service. Along with that is the continual debate about one style versus another - fortunately for us, a good natured debate amongst members of our church.
JP Moreland (Love God With All Your Mind) wrote about how, in his opinion, both styles have their place... that modern praise songs seem to work well for emotionally connecting to God, and traditional hymns were better at teaching theological truths.
I love the musical style of modern choruses... but to be honest, I think so many are too repetitive and simple lyrically. Not all, but there's a lot of mediocrity out there (I sing in our praise team and am underwhelmed by some of what's suggested to play).
Now, to get closer to the subject of the thread... coincidentally, this past Sunday, three guys (guitar, mandolin, upright bass) did bluegrass rendtions of a bunch of hymns. I thought it was fantastic. I'd love to hear the Lost Dogs put their style on some traditional hymns - I think it would make a great worship disc....
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wild4jesus567
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Originally posted by BigFiber
It is well with my soul... |
Did you ever hear the story behind that song? Amazing story.
what a friend we have in jesus
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MarkfromScotland
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Originally posted by MarkfromScotland
Thought that would get your attention...! Was thinking of what they could do next. How about a Cd of Classic Hymns done in the style of The Dogs...? Any suggestions for suitable Hymns...?
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If you watch the Lost Dogs DVD Terry says the initial vision was to do a one-off record of old Gospel hymns. This is where this question came from as they have never actually done this.
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08-15-2006 18:00 |
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Audiori J
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"Standing on the Promises" done huckabilly.
Thats a joke, but there are some that would be really good harmony style. Almost like a modern twist of those old gospel quartets.
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07-31-2006 10:28 |
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07-31-2006 12:20 |
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trcf
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I love their version of "Farther Along". Maybe "Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing" or "Take it to the Lord in Prayer".
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08-01-2006 08:07 |
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BigFiber
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| I love their version of "Farther Along". Maybe "Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing" or "Take it to the Lord in Prayer |
Now we're talking!!
How about a traditional Christmas music CD?
Is that too cheesy? I'd love to hear them play some REAL christmas classics.
Enough of Rudalph, Santa and all that mess.
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08-01-2006 12:25 |
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JohnL
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I would pass on a Christmas Cd, but I would pay good money to hear the Dogs do "Come Thou Fount"...
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08-01-2006 14:52 |
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MarkyMark77
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It's hard for me to believe that there are people who still think that there has to be a designation between hymns, "choruses", contemporary, modern, blah, blah, blah...I've heard all the arguments and definitions, and I have deemed them to be, by and large, a waste of time. Thus saith me.
The only definition worth its salt would be how scripture and Jewish tradition designates between hymns, psalms and spiritual songs. I would call "My Jesus, I Love Thee" a hymn, others would not. That's why it's really a waste of time. Since the days of the inception of the church, people have written songs about God and to God to bring Him honor. Call it a hymn or chorus or whatever, it's all good. I do wish that more contemporary songs were more complex lyrically. There is so much more to discover. But, I'm not praying that God would "raise my ebenezer", either (from "Come Thou Fount.") It just doesn't speak true to me. Some of the other verses of that song, however, do. So, obviously, diversity is good in music, especially church music.
As for the topic, I would love to hear the Dogs do (hee hee, I said "Dogs' doo") "Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord" by Matt Redman, for example. But, I wish people would stop pushing hymns like they are canonical and Mom's apple pie rolled into one. I've actually talked to people who have an elevated view of hymns. I also know new churches who won't do hymns. Both positions are a waste of Kingdom energy and exclusionary.
The fact remains that, not only is there room for all of those different songs (old & new, complex and simple, etc.) but that you see in the Psalms all kinds of different writing as well. The next time someone complains about the repetition in "choruses", for example, have them read Psalm 136. The Bible is a lot more tolerant of differing styles than we usually are!
As for Dogs' covers:
In The Sweet By and By (an uptempo version with a great Robert Randolph-esque slide guitar would be cool)
Oh Happy Day (with Mike Roe vocal)
Take My Life and Let It Be
And the greatest hymn of all:
Jimmy Crack Corn
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pmac
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Originally posted by MarkyMark77
It's hard for me to believe that there are people who still think that there has to be a designation between hymns, "choruses", contemporary, modern, blah, blah, blah...I've heard all the arguments and definitions, and I have deemed them to be, by and large, a waste of time. Thus saith me.
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I've actually talked to people who have an elevated view of hymns. I also know new churches who won't do hymns. Both positions are a waste of Kingdom energy and exclusionary.
The fact remains that, not only is there room for all of those different songs (old & new, complex and simple, etc.) but that you see in the Psalms all kinds of different writing as well. The next time someone complains about the repetition in "choruses", for example, have them read Psalm 136. The Bible is a lot more tolerant of differing styles than we usually are!
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Amen. but... if personal experience is any measure, it seems most folks have a strong preference for a certain style over another. Which is unfortunate if it's an issue of "this music is more spiritual than that music." But if it's purely a cultural thing - one style is simply more asthetically pleasing than another - it's hard to argue with.
I suppose in the long run, whatever is done with excellence, honoring and pleasing to God will endure, be redone in new ways, and stylistic differences become less of an issue (just like our desire for the classics to be redone in a Dogs style!)
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JohnL
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I also thought of a great title this CD, but if I mention it I might get banned...
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08-01-2006 15:33 |
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MarkyMark77
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Yeah, I've got no problem with preferences. You can't help what you like. I like a pretty loud, rockin' worship time, but I've had great worship experiences with all kinds of styles. Proving that you choose how close you get to God. That's a good thing.
I just can't stomach the church music debate any more. So, I get a little..testy about it.
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BigFiber
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Sorry, I didn't mean to start anything.
I just want more hymns in church is all... 
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I think the real problem is lack of balance. I get tired in a service if every song is "repetition in choruses" style that goes on and on. I also get tired if every song is a hymn. It seems to be a pendulum, where it used to be swung really far into the only hymns used direction...now a lot of churches have swung to the side of never using any.
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MarkyMark77
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I think the real problem is lack of balance. I get tired in a service if every song is "repetition in choruses" style that goes on and on. I also get tired if every song is a hymn. It seems to be a pendulum, where it used to be swung really far into the only hymns used direction...now a lot of churches have swung to the side of never using any.
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Yeah, exactly. And not every "chorus" is repititious, and not every hymn is great exegetical poetry. It's like going to a Chinese Buffet and only eating General Tso's Chicken. You end up really missing out on everything that the music of the Church has to offer.
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BigFiber
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| I think the real problem is lack of balance. I get tired in a service if every song is "repetition in choruses" style that goes on and on. I also get tired if every song is a hymn. It seems to be a pendulum, where it used to be swung really far into the only hymns used direction...now a lot of churches have swung to the side of never using any. |
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Now we're talking! General Tso's Chicken!!! Man, if we ate General Tso's Chicken every Sunday at church I would never complain!
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